Dawkins ranks levels of rape

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Here at OSR, we enjoy a veritable melting pot of different belief systems. We have Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Atheists, Agnostics, a Jehovah's Witness, a self-proclaimed Jedi, at least one Pagan, and a few John Cena fans. And somehow, we all manage to get along. I may be called Tired , but you guys know that when I post a story about Richard Dawkins, I am posting a comedy piece written by the biologist. And tonight, he has decided to use different levels of rape to explain morality.

A few days ago, Dawkins claimed that "forcing" a religion on your children is a form of child abuse. But many people pointed out that he has a bit of a twisted view of what counts as child abuse. He recently said that telling children about Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny or any fairy tale was damaging. But last year, he claimed that "mild paedophilia" (touching up children) did not cause lasting harm. He claimed that a teacher slipped his hand down his shorts when he was a child, and implied that he turned out fine as an adult.

So Dawkins came back with a great argument in a very bad way. He was trying to say that some actions are worse than others. Acknowledging that one is worse does not mean he approves of the less-bad stuff. In other words, just because he believes that telling children about God is worse than "mild paedophilia", it does not mean that he supports paedophilia. If only he had just said that instead.

He started by saying that, "Mild paedophilia is bad. Violent paedophilia is worse. If you think that's an endorsement of mild paedophilia, go away and learn how to think". At first, you may agree with him. But would you tell a child who had been molested that his suffering is not as bad as a child who had been violently molested? He then said that "Date rape is bad. Stranger rape at knifepoint is worse. If you think that's an endorsement of mild paedophilia, go away and learn how to think". While he is not encouraging rape, he is effectively saying that some kinds are better than others.

He became world famous in 2006 after publishing 'The God Delusion'. In this book, he tried to prove that following any religion or believing in any god was irrational and dangerous. But he did this by inventing his own religion, complete with its own god, and then discussing why his new religion did not make sense. The book was also full of badly researched history and little reference to credible scientific texts. The book was so bad that most of the 13 colleges that gave Dawkins honourary doctorates will no longer allow students to quote Dawkin's work. This includes the college that built a new biology wing based on his work.
 
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Wow. Really? It's strange: firstly he said that there aren't any God or other. But he created his religion. And it's crazy think that paedophilia is better than make a children follow a religion.
 

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I have this theory that if any Christian, Jew or Muslim gets angry when talking about 'The God Delusion', then they obviously have not read it. I am a Christian and I have read it, and he defeats himself very early on.

Basically, with no valid citations or evidence, he decides that literally every religion and supernatural story ever conceived (including those that only appear in movies like Harry Potter and certain James Bond movies) all originated from one. Therefore he considers every religion that has ever existed in any way to be one. He has created his own religion. He then decides to turn every god that he has ever heard of, including ones that don't exist in their own religions, into a singular character. He makes this the god of his new religion. He also determines that every bad thing that has ever happened in the name of any religion to be true for his religion too. So he makes this really confusing mess and proves that believing in the religion he just made up makes no sense. And he uses this as an argument that believing in God is dangerous.

Do not worry if you found that hard to follow. Dawkins likes to make stuff up, and then call people "ignorant" for questioning his logic. There are at around 2,500 Christians in Britain alone who didn't believe in God before reading 'The God Delusion'.
 

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I'm a Agnostic,
I had a Christian mum and have christian friends, have a Pagan dad/friends, want to be Buddist sister/friends, hindu friends, muslim friends, atheist friends, agnostic friends, jewish friends, mormon friends and a Jehovas witness who me and the missus (mixed views) always strike up a conversation when he does his daily bit of spreading the message he believes in.
I respect all their beliefs, almost all of them are good people, willing to help anyone when they can.


First up I hate guys like this. In it for the money.
There's nothing wrong with believing in a god/gods/teacher or not.

Is starting/defending wars over different religious views bullshit? of course it is.
But people who want to go to war will always try to recruit people by any means, normally making the otherside the "enemy" by showing off that the "enemy" "BOlieve" in something barbaric just because the enemies' thousands of year old book/teachings/stereotype apparently says so.

There ARE some deranged sects of all religions and non-religions, but blaming their violence on the founding "Help eachother, love eachother, be a good person" teaching of every serious religion/view is bullshit.

His Rape/Pedophile analogy is messed up, when people say stuff like that, you know they've done something horrible.
 
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