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Talk about wrestling, Any wrestling. Use spoilers when it's appropriate. :)

I am loving NXT Takeover tonight, just got home from work and am checking it out for the low low price of 9.99 a month.

I'm only two matches deep, but so far it's what I've come to expect from NXT, a pretty darn good wrestling show.
 

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I definitely enjoy nXt quality of wrestling more than wwe's own flagship brands.. their show tonight even puts many wwe main ppv to shame.
 

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NXT TakeOver: REvolution is basically my wrestling wet dream. GOD.
 
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I don't think TLC will be as much fun, and it's not the talent's fault.
 

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Vince needs to fuck off from wrestling business ASAP and let Triple H takes over WWE.
 
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After listening to him on the Steve Austin podcast, I agree.

He's trying to placate to every single television viewer with his show, and it's a mess. Placate to wrestling fans, dammit!
 

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Heh, I literally made a comment on this somewhere else.

<blockquote class='quote\\_blockquote'><dl><dt>Quote:</dt><dd> </dd></dl><div><blockquote class='quote\\_blockquote'><dl><dt>Quote:</dt><dd> </dd></dl><div>December 13, 2014, 12:40 am | # | Reply

Do 3 year old boys ever watch wrestling with their grandmothers? Do either 3 year olds or grandmothers even watch wrestling?
Targeting wrestling shows to wrestling fans. What a concept. Maybe Vince should try that instead of tying in WWE to Scooby Doo or the Flintstones. Vince McMagma? John Cenastone? Which of WWE’s creative idiots came up with those names while snorting a line of cocaine off the table in the writers room?
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I watched Wrestlemania 7 on VCR at that age, Undertaker’s promo with Bearer and the blindfold match still stick with me to this day.

No idea who else was on the show of the top of my head apart from Slaughter and Hogan, shit that had about 10 promos throughout the night to promote it, it seemed.

…but yeah it was with my grandparents, my grandad would shadow box in his seat along with the brawling.

Vince got big because of appealing the kids, elderly and peoples genitals because it was an investment.

From a business prospective would you choose an audience who will be loyal with your product for 10-15 years without thinking to much about it,
Or people who will watch something else if you mess up the show?

People only listen to and keep watching something they understand,
That’s why “kids” films can be watched by anyone worldwide,
Where as “intelligent” films that need a deep knowledge of history, knowing what the director aims for and the ability not to miss a single scene to understand, only gets a few thousand viewings and a few festival awards.

We have our WRESTLING based 3rd show again,
We have want we wanted, as we do every 5 years, be NXT, ECW, Velocity, Heat etc.

Enjoy it.[/quote]

Screw it, I'm adding something on top of that.

To most audience members need to have reason to delve into it.

Fans who have grown to love professional wrestling as wrestling, love the actually matches, the technical side of it.

The thing is, if I was watching a really technical match with my younger self, my younger self would probably tug at my sleeve and mumble
"WHY are they fighting?"

And me now, I might not have an answer to the most technically sound match I'd seen in years.

My younger self used to watch fueds during the attitude era,
To just name a few from the undercard.

Val Venis used to fight because he loved women,
Godfather would advertise his Ho's,
The Dudleys would feud because people would take away their tables,
Hardys would go around protecting women,
The Hollys really wanted to keep his Hardcore title,
Stevie Richards tried to convert people into being less hardcore.
Kaientai and later Low Down wanted to be taken seriously.

We're the matches good? NO, alot of them were shitter then an outhouse, but millions would watch the stories unfold because the characters were entertaining.

I LOVE watching technically sound matches and shoot wrestling,
But if I said I didn't enjoy watching a frantic comedy that is WWE/F wrestling, I'd be lying.

I still hate the discrimination though.

WWE is trying to be a complete product like everyone wanted and people still complain?
Sheesh.
 

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Maximo said:
WWE is trying to be a complete product like everyone wanted and people still complain?
Sheesh.
Yes.A complete thrash product.


<blockquote class='quote\\_blockquote'><dl><dt>Quote:</dt><dd> </dd></dl><div>From a business prospective would you choose an audience who will be loyal with your product for 10-15 years without thinking to much about it,
Or people who will watch something else if you mess up the show?

People only listen to and keep watching something they understand,
That’s why “kids” films can be watched by anyone worldwide,
Where as “intelligent” films that need a deep knowledge of history, knowing what the director aims for and the ability not to miss a single scene to understand, only gets a few thousand viewings and a few festival awards.[/quote]
So tell me why the WWE network failed.


 

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You have the Shield as you're signature, and your saying WWE is trash?
It's like eating Coco Pops with a big grin on you're face then saying Kelloggs don't make good cereal.
You're trolling, don't.
 

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Maximo said:
You have the Shield as you're signature, and your saying WWE is trash?
It's like eating Coco Pops with a big grin on you're face then saying Kelloggs don't make good cereal.
You're trolling, don't.
What I mean is their product suck not their talent.
Look at Ambrose,he can be pg version of Stone Cold but instead they ask him to fork a doll.Cesaro and Bray Wyatt are another example,their momentum died because of stupidity of the creative team.


Btw the last time i changed my sig was a year ago.
 

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And what I'm saying is, WWF/E has ALWAYs been that way.

They have always pushed people who have the "look" and character rather then the technical wrestling abilities.
You know why? Kids want to be them, women want to be with them and the older fans have all grown up believing that the strong man should be at the top.

People are demanding change,
I agree with some points, like I said I hate discrimination, everyone should get a shot if they have the talent, no matter what age, sex, look etc is.

But now that we a getting what we were dreaming of, finally, with NXT being taken seriously (unlike heat, velocity and wwECW), and we're STILL bitching?


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Fucking hell, no wonder why such a small percentage watch wrestling,
Its us never being satisfied, scaring people away.
 

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Maximo said:
But now that we a getting what we were dreaming of, finally, with NXT being taken seriously (unlike heat, velocity and wwECW), and we're STILL bitching?
I can't find single post in this thread bithin about NXT.NXT is a fuckin development show but it give us something to give a fuck about from their jobber to the main eventer because they gave us interestling storyline and fued but for RAW and Smackdown as main brand,what they gave us? Same old shit every week such Usos vs Gold/Stardust at Raw,after few day Usos vs Star/Goldust at Smackdown and don't forget Usos vs Star/Goldust at Main Event.I'm just give my honest opinion here.People bitchin and complaining to make something better.

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Fucking hell, no wonder why such a small percentage watch wrestling,
Its us never being satisfied, scaring people away.[/quote]
Or people don't really care about wrestling.

 
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Who says the Network has failed?

Been a subscriber since day 1, and it rules. Loooove the network.
 

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Facing each other through out the week is called a fued. You mentioned one week.

NXT is HHH's project so NXT was mentioned indirectly.

But yeah, I was wrong, no one complained about NXT.

Patience though, Vince isnt dieing/retiring anytime soon, hell right now there almost 10 entertaining companies expanding to appeal to more English speaking audiences.
This era right now is amazing for choice.
Get a new saddle, and find a new horse if your old one isnt moving where you want it to go.
 

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Lol why wwe network sucks? We all know it has some removed matches , some changes. But it still gives us a opportunity to watch awesome matches in HQ.
 

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Little rant here. I'm hating the ever increasing way that fans AND companies pull out the old "Pro wrestling>sports entertainment" argument. Pro wrestling IS sports entertainment you fools. Is pro wrestling a sport? It is, because a sport (as defined by google) is "an activity involving physical exertion and skill in which an individual or team competes against another or others for entertainment". Just because a certain millionaire that should be a billionaire has a form of sports entertainment that is lacking doesn't mean that everything else is automatically professional wrestling. All these people saying "lol we aren't in the sports entertainment business, we're in the pro wrestling business" are contradicting themselves. Don't tell me you haven't been entertained by pro wrestling ever, I'd have a better time thinking Roman Reigns is worthy of a WrestleMania main event (AMIRIGHTGUYS). Is NXT entertaining? Is NJPW entertaining? Is Lucha Underground entertaining? You all know Vince just uses "sports entertainment" as a term because pro wrestling has the shittiest history/reputation of all the sports, and you guys are buying into it, just like he wants to.

You don't have to like Vince's sports entertainment, but don't act like it's the only show of it's kind in town. His may not be as entertaining, but there's a lot out there that are.
 
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The pro wrestling world is very similar to the music world, there's too much for anyone to know 100% percent of, but there's just enough for people to be able to find something they like.
 

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Keson said:
The pro wrestling world is very similar to the music world, there's too much for anyone to know 100% percent of, but there's just enough for people to be able to find something they like.
And the mainstream stuff is all rehashed. :eek:k:
 
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Yeah, but not all bad. For instance, how can we forget about the greatest pop star of all time, Weird Al?
 

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Keson said:
Who says the Network has failed?

Been a subscriber since day 1, and it rules. Loooove the network.
It a failure.They failed to reach their target number of subscriber.Hell,many WWE staff lose their job because of it.
 
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