Move Hacks Development

[barskio]

Guide

Just like modding for rookies this is hacking for rookies.
Show me what you got, and I will help you and give you tips.

Tip: Start simple

 

[Tyler Black]

Awesome! probably way to complicated to start with, but im gonna try and use this to make kenny omega's one winged angel using the electric chair drop and the michinoku driver

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Alright so heres where i got so far,

D106B454 3898
D106B456 008E
8106B460 3589
D106B454 3898
D106B456 008E
8106B462 0027
D106B514 3898
D106B516 008E
8106B520 3589
D106B514 3898
D106B516 008E
8106B522 0027

got stuck at toki's 3, cant seem to find the move values for the electric chair drop or the michinoku driver

 

[barskio]

I will look @ this later. But please try to start with something simple.

 

[Deleted User]

How do I go about setting the ending tokis for flying attacks? I've read that there is more than one part to them, but I'm striking out. I'm trying to make a moonsault into a double foot stomp. This is my code:

Replaces Dargon Attack

D106B454 40f3
D106B456 0003
8106B460 0115
D106B454 40f3
D106B456 0003
8106B462 bb00
D106B454 40f3
D106B456 000d
8106B460 00d4
D106B454 40f3
D106B456 000d
8106B462 5c3a

D106B454 40f4 <---- This is where I attempted to splice into the second part of the move
D106B456 0029
8106B460 00d4
D106B454 40f4
D106B456 0029
8106B462 60d2

Tokis:

81329C28 0400
81329C2A 0025

 

[The NekoMancer]

Bump.

 

[barskio]

How do I go about setting the ending tokis for flying attacks? I've read that there is more than one part to them, but I'm striking out. I'm trying to make a moonsault into a double foot stomp. This is my code:

Replaces Dargon Attack

D106B454 40f3
D106B456 0003
8106B460 0115
D106B454 40f3
D106B456 0003
8106B462 bb00
D106B454 40f3
D106B456 000d
8106B460 00d4
D106B454 40f3
D106B456 000d
8106B462 5c3a

D106B454 40f4 <---- This is where I attempted to splice into the second part of the move
D106B456 0029
8106B460 00d4
D106B454 40f4
D106B456 0029
8106B462 60d2

Tokis:

81329C28 0400
81329C2A 0025

A flying attack consist of 4 moves. If it is pinning it consist of 5.

40F3Dragon Attack (1) Set up
40F4Dragon Attack (2) Connecting
40F5
40F6Dragon Attack (3) Missing


So you need to hack a set up, connecting part and and a missing part.

I hope this helps.

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<blockquote class='quote\\_blockquote'><dl><dt>Tyler Black</dt><dd>Feb 7 2015, 04:54:36 PM</dd></dl><div>Awesome! probably way to complicated to start with, but im gonna try and use this to make kenny omega's one winged angel using the electric chair drop and the michinoku driver

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Alright so heres where i got so far,

D106B454 3898
D106B456 008E
8106B460 3589
D106B454 3898
D106B456 008E
8106B462 0027
D106B514 3898
D106B516 008E
8106B520 3589
D106B514 3898
D106B516 008E
8106B522 0027

got stuck at toki's 3, cant seem to find the move values for the electric chair drop or the michinoku driver[/quote]As you can see in my tutorial you can't just input the animation value.

You use the Green (movevalue) and Purple (framecount) as activators.
To make a move hack you need to change the Yellow (Move Section Addy) and Blue (Animation Clock)

So please take a look at my Tutorial again, and begin with something simple. You can't build a wall if you can't make bricks.

 

[Deleted User]

"You can't build a wall if you csn't make bricks". Awesome! I would take this advice, my man, I tried to bite off more than I could chew when I first started and it set me back quite a bit.

Also, that WILL help, a lot. Thank you! One question, what is the 3rd slot for in flying attacks? It was left blank.

 

[barskio]

It's a chop.

You can look how ani's look in the sd mall.
It changes the p1 and p2 ani from the Chicken Wing Jaw Breaker to any move value you want.
37C5 xxxx
37C6 yyyy



D12972D2 37C5
812972D2 xxxx
D12972D4 37C5
812972D4 xxxx
D12972DE 37C5
812972DE xxxx
D12975EA 37C6
812975EA yyyy
D12975EC 37C6
812975EC yyyy
D12975F6 37C6
812975F6 yyyy

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@Tyler Black

http://s4.zetaboards.com/Old_Skool_Reunion?topic=10269646/1/?x=40#new

 

[Tyler Black]

Holy crap that's incredible man. Looks exactly how I imagined it to, but I had no idea it would be that complicated to work out, or would need those other two moves to look so crisp. Now I still want to try hacking but not sure what to start out with that would be simple

 

[Deleted User]

Start with a one splice thing. Something easy, like splice a powerbomb into something. Keep it simple and without any pins, repeating moves or submissions.

 

[killacam]

Barskio, I was going through your One Winged Angel tutorial and got to a part that has always stumped me when converting moves to 4-player and I thought asking here would be better than potentially derailing that topic since this topic is specifically teaching beginners to move hack.

I tried converting a different pinning hack using the damage mods part of WldFb's Move Hack Converter but it didn't work for me as when I performed the hack as P2, instead of pinning, there was a glitch and the character did a submission move (although the game thought it was a pinning move because the count started flashing on the screen).

I want to finish converting the move myself, so using your One Winged Angel hack as an example, how would you convert the pinning part for all players?
The code you came up with is :
810AC146 2300
810911E8 0B4B

 

[barskio]

D1091042 1D56
810911E8 0B4B
D1091042 1D56
810AC146 2300
D109148A 1D56
81091630 0B4B
D109148A 1D56
810AC58E 2300
D10918D2 1D56
81091A78 0B4B
D10918D2 1D56
810AC9D6 2300
D1091D1A 1D56
81091EC0 0B4B
D1091D1A 1D56
810ACE1E 2300

I have a tab for pins in my edited version of WldFb's 4P Move Converter, it is in my notepads.

 

[Deleted User]

You have a tab for pins in his converter? Anything else in there I should know about, because that sounds like it can make my life a lot easier.

 

[barskio]

http://multiupload.biz/gzcpzkjh2og1/

 

[S.K. Stylez]

There is one thing that is bugging me. I've always wondered how the Worm taunt is linked. I've looked into the animation addresses, grapple mods, damage mods, tokis etc, but I could never find out how the game knew to link the 2 animations together. It seems like you can't link taunts to other moves using grapple mods. Anyone know how to go about that? I'm trying to find a method without using the conventional method, but i'm thinking that might be the only way now.

 

[Deleted User]

I don't think they are linked. I think the worm chop is linked to being in special. Could be wrong.

 

[S.K. Stylez]

It's 2 animations. It's a bitch to get it to work properly in VPW2. Thankfully I was able to get the Stink Face working properly using grapple mods.

 

[Deleted User]

Okay, that is incredibly interesting. Imagine using something like Hogan's pointing taunt to make his big boot or elbow strike insanely stronger!

 

[S.K. Stylez]

I think you can do that.
http://z3.invisionfree.com/WldFb_Ar...2a00e0d29ccabe8b04903e242fa7e3d&showtopic=613

 

[Deleted User]

I only want them powered up after performing a certain taunt, ala Worm. I've been reading up on damage mods since it's the next step in move hacking (along with toki 1 and 3 mods), and it's seems a bit easy to pick up.