Ric Flair Pulled From 2K Legends Panel

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WZ has learned that Ric Flair was pulled from tonight's 2K Sports Legends panel, and it appears as though WWE sent Jerry Lawler to the event to replace Flair in talking to the media.

We can also exclusively confirm Stephanie McMahon LeVesque personally came to the event, and was whisked in by her own personal security staff to apologize to 2K Sports on behalf of WWE.

WZ has been told WWE is furious with Flair, and also at host Jim Ross for losing control of the situation.
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what happened exactly?cuz this story is new can u explain to me?
 

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<blockquote class='quote\\_blockquote'><dl><dt>Nwo Knw</dt><dd>Aug 18 2013, 07:01:06 AM</dd></dl><div>what happened exactly?cuz this story is new can u explain to me?[/quote]Even I didn't know what happened, But according to WrestleZone comment section, It said that Ric Flair's mouth (The way of how Ric Flair talk) in the Legends panel is too mature (In other words, It's not a "PG-Style" talk). Flair's mouth (Flair's way of talking to the attendance) does not fit with the "PG" rules of the WWE, So they pulled him away and replace it with Jerry Lawler (Jerry Lawler know the way of how to entertain the attendance with a "PG-Style" talk).

But that was just my analysis based on the WrestleZone comment section, Okay? My analysis could be wrong, Or could be true.
 

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This whole PG thing is just embarrassing for WWE - I can understand talking child like would appeal to kids, but I'd say a high percentage is adults watching and find it incredibly patronizing. I'm probably too cynical but I appreciate people just being blunt, because it's humorous at times.

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Sandow and Flair bounced off each other brilliantly too, they should do a "battle of the robes". haha.
 

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Bombardier said:
This whole PG thing is just embarrassing for WWE - I can understand talking child like would appeal to kids, but I'd say a high percentage is adults watching and find it incredibly patronizing.
Are you really that dumb?
 

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wwefan4life2 said:
Bombardier said:
This whole PG thing is just embarrassing for WWE - I can understand talking child like would appeal to kids, but I'd say a high percentage is adults watching and find it incredibly patronizing.
Are you really that dumb?
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I will simply quote Jim Ross:

“You asked…I do not feel that WWE will or do they need to go back to TV14 ratings for their broadcasts. There are lots of reasons but one is simple….advertisers do not covet spending big money on prime time, TV14 rated shows as much as they do PG programming. Plus, the talent, and not the TV rating, made the Attitude Era so successful. Cursing, foul language, edgy gestures, ect did not draw ratings and set WWE on fire but instead it was the talents who brought intensity and created a competitive nature in the locker room where several Type A personalities ‘needed’ to be the top star.”

This is something people on the internet don't seem to understand. WWE was only non PG during the Attitude Era, every other time they were PG (Even though during the 1980's, there were not TV ratings, but the product back then would have been considered PG).

WWE made over 600 Million Dollars last year. If you think PG is embarrassing for WWE, you have your head in the sand. WWE is a bigger company now, than they ever were.
 

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Personally I wouldn't have quoted Jim Ross, great commentator, bad everything else. What he said in the last sentence was a "duh" moment, the talent 'back then' were so successful, because they were able to use Cursing, Foul language and edgy gestures to their advantage to build character and audience interest which then resulted in TV ratings.

Daniel Bryan's firing is a great example of the now vs the past.

Edit: Whose to say they wouldn't have bigger ratings than they do now, if they weren't so heavily restricted? The talent of today would do incredible things.
 

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Bombardier said:
Personally I wouldn't have quoted Jim Ross, great commentator, bad everything else. What he said in the last sentence was a "duh" moment, the talent 'back then' were so successful, because they were able to use Cursing, Foul language and edgy gestures to their advantage to build character and audience interest which then resulted in TV ratings.

Daniel Bryan's firing is a great example of the now vs the past.

Edit: Whose to say they wouldn't have bigger ratings than they do now, if they weren't so heavily restricted? The talent of today would do incredible things.
So what you're saying is that instead of the characters being individuals with their own gimmicks, background, and moves to entertain or enrage the crowd in their own way, they had to use cursing and edgy gestures in order to be relate-able with the core audience of trash TV 18-35 year olds? A rating doesn't limit character or show popularity, its the writers and how they make those characters and shows that determine what can happen. Would you rather go with the guy who can turn a piece of shit into gold, the guy who has bronze but can't make anything better or worse with it, or the guy who is given gold but somehow always turns it into shit?

And you can't tell the quality of the show just by it having either high or low ratings. There are great shows with low ratings, and there are horrible shows with high ratings. Just because people would rather read a spoilers page that takes no more than 1 or 2 minutes to read instead of watching a 3 hour show (and yes, the same can be said for a 2 hour or 1 hour show), or maybe because those people find the show to be so predictable and unexciting (it happens with all the wrestling shows sometimes these days, when your knowledgeable about the sport, your guesses are accurate to reality) doesn't mean the show is bad or unappealing.

Oh, and this PG excuse is really getting on my nerves. If you guys have ever watched a PG program that isn't WWE (excluding 1997-1999 Raw and 1999-2007 SmackDown) you can easily see WWE doesn't even use half of the PG ratings limits. And yes, WWE's limitations to me are a little too much, but I honestly see why they do it, even if I don't agree with it sometimes.
 
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Bombardier said:
This whole PG thing is just embarrassing for WWE - I can understand talking child like would appeal to kids, but I'd say a high percentage is adults watching and find it incredibly patronizing.
Are you really that dumb?
Warned for flaming, I don't care how good of a hacker you are, knock it off and act like a civil adult. It's just wrestling and everyone is allowed their own opinion. Be a star, not a jerk.

edit: On topic:

The whole PG/attitude argument is lame, I don't think the product needs to get a more adult rating, but I am finally enjoying the return of CHARACTERS in wrestling, which has been missing.

These last ten years, it wasn't the PG rating that made the product stale, it was the lack of variety in the wrestlers, for god knows how long it seemed like just about everybody was in short trunks with the same haircut.

However, to anyone saying the WWE is bigger than it ever was, it is a publicly traded company, and their figures are open to anyone willing to read them, saying that they are bigger now than ever before is a flat out fabrication and the numbers will show it. They aren't losing money by any means, but they are not the media and merchandising titan of days past.
 

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<blockquote class='quote\\_blockquote'><dl><dt>KG 24</dt><dd>Aug 18 2013, 05:52:05 PM</dd></dl><div>
Bombardier said:
Personally I wouldn't have quoted Jim Ross, great commentator, bad everything else. What he said in the last sentence was a "duh" moment, the talent 'back then' were so successful, because they were able to use Cursing, Foul language and edgy gestures to their advantage to build character and audience interest which then resulted in TV ratings.

Daniel Bryan's firing is a great example of the now vs the past.

Edit: Whose to say they wouldn't have bigger ratings than they do now, if they weren't so heavily restricted? The talent of today would do incredible things.
So what you're saying is that instead of the characters being individuals with their own gimmicks, background, and moves to entertain or enrage the crowd in their own way, they had to use cursing and edgy gestures in order to be relate-able with the core audience of trash TV 18-35 year olds? A rating doesn't limit character or show popularity, its the writers and how they make those characters and shows that determine what can happen. Would you rather go with the guy who can turn a piece of shit into gold, the guy who has bronze but can't make anything better or worse with it, or the guy who is given gold but somehow always turns it into shit?

And you can't tell the quality of the show just by it having either high or low ratings. There are great shows with low ratings, and there are horrible shows with high ratings. Just because people would rather read a spoilers page that takes no more than 1 or 2 minutes to read instead of watching a 3 hour show (and yes, the same can be said for a 2 hour or 1 hour show), or maybe because those people find the show to be so predictable and unexciting (it happens with all the wrestling shows sometimes these days, when your knowledgeable about the sport, your guesses are accurate to reality) doesn't mean the show is bad or unappealing.

Oh, and this PG excuse is really getting on my nerves. If you guys have ever watched a PG program that isn't WWE (excluding 1997-1999 Raw and 1999-2007 SmackDown) you can easily see WWE doesn't even use half of the PG ratings limits. And yes, WWE's limitations to me are a little too much, but I honestly see why they do it, even if I don't agree with it sometimes.[/quote]No I'm saying that their individual characters might benefit more from being able to mix it up a bit with the cursing, edgy hand signals and such - Austin sold a hell of a lot of merchandise over the years and a lot of the shirts had that edgy sarcasm in them - so in basic terms they're missing out on massive potential by limiting themselves to all these silly guidelines. I'm not comparing ratings, my opinions generally get consisted from the crowds, the Ruthless Aggression era was my personal favourite over any other time - I thought it was a fantastic direction story-line wise and I think we might be getting a bit of that back now what with the Wyatt Family ( fantastic characters and setup ), CM Punk & Daniel Bryan.

Attitude era wasn't as amazing as people make it out to be, but there is a very distinct comparison available from then to now.
 

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So...basically 2K is doing another 2K14 panel? Because clearly they had a 90 minute or so panel Saturday night which I watched. I can understand them doing another one though, because of how it went to hell with Ric Flair basically rambling on and talking overtop of everyone. Tho I did enjoy Ric Flair's stories, I would have actually liked to hear from the other members of the panel. I'm sure 2K were put off by Jim Ross & Ric Flair's language aswell.
 

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UPDATE: I just got an update from WrestleZone that Jerry Lawler replace Ric Flair in talking to the media AFTER the symposium ended. That mean, Lawler never replace Ric Flair at the symposium. He replace Flair AFTER the symposium ended (When talking to the media). Sorry for the "Non-Detailed" information that I posted earlier.

Anyway, Watch this video started from 08:00 until the end. It was hilarious:

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UPDATE:
<blockquote class='quote\\_blockquote'><dl><dt>Quote:</dt><dd> </dd></dl><div>Ric Flair was in rare form at yesterday's WWE 2K14 "30 Years of WrestleMania" panel. Flair appeared to be hammered at the event, and was going off about getting a pre-nup towards the end. The panel appeared to be uncomfortable with Flair's behavior, especially towards the end. When Flair talked about being at WrestleMania 30 in New Orleans, Jim Ross joked that some members of the panel would not be invited.

As for JR, he appeared to be a little loose during the panel, but he denied being drunk at the event. When he was asked on Twitter if he was drunk at the event, he wrote, "Complete lie. I was not drunk. Ridiculous... Understand what Bell's palsy is. Fatigue makes facial muscles create slurring"
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u guys are missing the point here IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THEY ARE PG OR NOT u can still do great stuff the writers suck and lack imagination
 

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Another UPDATE, Ladies and gentlemen:
<blockquote class='quote\\_blockquote'><dl><dt>Quote:</dt><dd> </dd></dl><div>F4Wonline.com has confirmed reports of heat on Ric Flair for his behavior at the WWE 2K14 event on Saturday night. The feeling is that Flair "hi-jacked" the event. Word is that the video game people weren't bothered at all but WWE officials were pretty upset.

Flair was close to signing a new public relations contract with WWE but Saturday night may have put that deal in jeopardy, at least for the time being. He was also scheduled to make a surprise SummerSlam appearance but that was nixed.
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