TNA Accused of Stealing Gimmick from Indy Wrestler

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<blockquote class='quote\\_blockquote'><dl><dt>Quote:</dt><dd> </dd></dl><div>Jeffrey Scott, a former employee and partner of Border City Wrestling (Scott D'Amore) and Max Pro Wrestling in Windsor, Ontario, Canada, is claiming that Impact Wrestling stole the Crimson gimmick from a local Michigan indy worker known as CK3.

Scott wrote on his Facebook page:

After sending an info package on himself as Krimson, they debuted a character under a very familiar name. Then after sending them several videos about his character, they steal the promos and character and give it to another wrestler.

Tommy Mercer has worked under the gimmick on Impact Wrestling TV since January. [/quote]

Does TNA have anything original? lol.
 

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Lets be honest TNA are ripping off WWE with that Sin Cara rip-off, aswell as recycling WCW, ECW, WWF etc etc. This does not surprise me!! They have wasted the real talents in TNA like AJ, Joe, the X-Division for rip-offs.
 

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It's Pro wrestling rip-offs do not exist & neither does original ideas

Example

Ric Flair=Rip Off of Buddy Rodgers

Dusty Rhodes/Hulk Hogan & Many others = Rip Offs of "Superstar" Billy Graham

It happens in all companies & will always happen, and btw Jeffery Scott is a smart ass prick who is most likely just trying to met attention for him & Conrad. I got to know quite alot of the BCW guys before they merged with MPW in the 6 years i lived in Windsor were my wife is from, i met them all through a high shool friend of hers that worked for BCW before the merger & was a top guy in TNA for awhile.
 
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WildForce67 said:
It's Pro wrestling rip-offs do not exist & neither does original ideas
This. No one was talking about how WWE was ripping off TNA by bringing in Jersy Shore people.

No one was complaining about Kamala as a response to Samoa Joe.

I never heard a single complaint when Mr. Mcmahon stole Bischoff's "evil boss" persona.

Lol, IWC. :ermm:
 

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"This. No one was talking about how WWE was ripping off TNA by bringing in Jersy Shore people."

WWE didn't rip off TNA, "Celebrities" being brought in for Wrestlemania started with WWE/F. Just because both have had people from the same show on means nothing.
 
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The point was wrestling is always going to have similarities.

I'm well aware of celebrities being brought into Wrestlemania, I've been watching for over 25 years, now. I'm more than aware.

It was complete reactionary booking, in my opinion. The timing was too coincidental for it NOT to be. WWE and TNA are both guilty of this. Sometimes, one just does it better than the other.

Notice how Evan Bourne's tights resemble AJ's? I'm not ripping on WWE, I'm making an honest observation.

It is a part of wrestling. It always has been, always will be.

Lol, IWC. :D



 
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How is it dumb? Because you happen to disagree with it? You shouldn't be calling something dumb with that kind of grammar.

That's just entirely too presumptuous.

What I used to make my point was completely relevant to what we were discussing, in no way does it make it "dumb". It makes it on topic.

And yes, it was complete reactionary booking on WWE's part. Anyone that can't see that needs their eyes checked.

Try and keep the conversation civil, man. Just saying something is "dumb" comes off juvenile. I've never shown you disrespect to earn that, okay?

I've never spoke to you that way, so why the hostility?

Oh, and to the rest of the IWC that think they know EVERYTHING about the business: A smark is still a mark.

 

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as I see the things many people just have something against TNA.Anything they do people say it's wrong but they contradict themselves.
For example:people say TNA only brings old WWE stars but when they try to elevate new young wrestlers like Gunner,Crimson,Matt Morgan(who was completely overlooked by WWE) and Robert Roode they still boo them.
I don't agree that they promote WWE trash.Kurt Angle,RVD and Jeff Hardy weren't fired they left WWE as top main eventers because they wanted so.And the situations of Mr Kennedy and Orton everyone knows it so I don't have to say more.
You always say TNA copy WWE but why no one tell the things WWE took from WCW and ECW.
Also people have so bad thoughts about Eric Bischoff but this guy was able to build a company who beat WWE in rating 84 weeks in row and then helped WWE to move to the next level.When he and Hogan came to the TNA I didn't like what they do but in time they showed they can do things in a good way.
People don't get the thing with "wrestling matters".Everybody is thinking at "fight" but wrestling isn't just about that.It is about fight and mic skills.
 

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You know the one thing that has bothered me more than anything? You hear WWE fans say the old guys suck all TNA has is WWE old rejects blah blah blah...But when Booker T & Nash went back to WWE fans damn near cream thier pants going OMG BOOKER T & DIESEL ARE BACK YAY!! I LOVE THEM GUYS!! But aren't these guys two of the ones they were bitching about being to old and the need to get the fuck of their tv screens?

IWC :sgctc:

 

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Things are recycled endless times!! I agree that alot of people's mindsets are too WWE and anything else is just a copycat!! I guess my passion for the TNA product has been lost, but the hope is still there. Maybe thats why I am being so negative to TNA atm, though I want them to succeed more than anything.. Each single promotion in history has taken something from someone.. IE.. Stone Cold Steve Austin. He was creadted no doubt by Sandman's gimmick!! Sting (Crow) from The Crow movie with Brandon Lee!!. Etc etc.. Its a part of evolution. Hell Batista was FN a product of HHH and had similarities. No one was bitching then!!
 
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I like all of the companies, because I'm a pro-wrestling fan,

but yeah. The IWC does seem to think it knows more about the business than the business itself.

How many times have I actually pulled the "unlike you, I have ring time under my belt" card?

Hardly ever, because the more I learned at Wrestling School, the more I started to laugh my ass off at the IWC, and I also learned to not tell too many things about the workings.

They may know a lot of what goes on in the business, but they always seem to fall short of WHY it goes on. Smarks seem to think they know more than promoters and the rest of wrestling fans.........

Like my trainer told me, once: "Smarks are still just fucking marks. They only know what we let them".

I don't like to throw my experience with wrestling around too much and try to still be a fan, but when you run into smarks that think they know so much, and decide to speak down to you because they are self-assured in their ignorance to the actual business itself.... I always want to shove it in their face and tell them "IF YOU KNOW SO MUCH, THAN GO AHEAD AND TRY IT, YOURSELF!"

I did, and I think it made me a better person, and a much more objective fan to wrestling. Instead of banging my head against the wall over how badly all the companies are fucking up, I have the ability to get excited and mark out.

I feel bad for people that can't.

Wow, this turned into quite the rant. Sometimes it really bothers me, though, when people that have actually ZERO experience in the ring and in the business try to tell others how it is.

Hey, I'm FSW alumni, I'm damn proud of it, and no one will ever be able to talk down to me for my lack of knowledge concerning this wonderful industry, at least the IWC can't.

This isn't directed at anyone in-particular at all, I just wanted to vent. I've been holding in my personal experiences for MONTHS, watching people talk about something as if they are a part of it. Well, guess what? None of us are. We're fans, we're marks, and we shouldn't forget that, because in the end, it'll kill whatever fun is left.

I'm tired of the IWC and it's condescending attitude. Why is it so hard to just admit: "I'm a fan, I'm more informed than many fans, but it doesn't make me an expert."

Because it doesn't, just like my experiences in the ring doesn't make ME an expert.

At least I know what "the iggy" is, I've yet to see a single effin' smark know what that means.

Wanna know why? Because "Smarks are still just marks. They only know what we let them". ;)

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I was TNA's biggest fan until they bought in Hogan. Before Hogan TNA stood for Wrestling( X-Division, Tag Team, Knockouts) They had a diverse and interesting show, with Hogan it became sports entertainment. Sports Entertainment is Awesome when it includes a mix of wrestling and entertainment. What TNA and the WWE have forgotten is what that balance is. MVP is the perfect example with his early feud with Matt Hardy where they had all these segments (Boxing/ Drinking Contest) but they also had a great 20 minute match on Smackdown. The ironic thing is that TNA was more about wrestling before it's name change.
 

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WildForce67 said:
You know the one thing that has bothered me more than anything? You hear WWE fans say the old guys suck all TNA has is WWE old rejects blah blah blah...But when Booker T & Nash went back to WWE fans damn near cream thier pants going OMG BOOKER T & DIESEL ARE BACK YAY!! I LOVE THEM GUYS!! But aren't these guys two of the ones they were bitching about being to old and the need to get the fuck of their tv screens?

IWC :sgctc:
This made my day, lol!
 

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<blockquote class='quote\\_blockquote'><dl><dt>Jason Boy</dt><dd>Jul 5 2011, 08:08:42 PM</dd></dl><div>I was TNA's biggest fan until they bought in Hogan. Before Hogan TNA stood for Wrestling( X-Division, Tag Team, Knockouts) They had a diverse and interesting show, with Hogan it became sports entertainment. Sports Entertainment is Awesome when it includes a mix of wrestling and entertainment. What TNA and the WWE have forgotten is what that balance is. MVP is the perfect example with his early feud with Matt Hardy where they had all these segments (Boxing/ Drinking Contest) but they also had a great 20 minute match on Smackdown. The ironic thing is that TNA was more about wrestling before it's name change. [/quote]if Hogan and Bischoff went to WWE no one would have any problem with that
 
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