kanefan666
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<blockquote class='quote\\_blockquote'><dl><dt>The Reverend</dt><dd>Jan 25 2014, 06:00:28 PM</dd></dl><div>Kanefan666, you have not been disagreeing with disinformation, you have been providing it. Then you turn to anger, denial and insults when facts don’t match your opinions.
As I promised, I took a very careful look at the last link you provided. The article was posted on a website called ‘Collective Evolution’. It cites 2 main sources; ‘Ultra Culture’ and ‘Higher Perspective’. I checked out all 3 websites very carefully, and they are only blogs. They are not good sources for balanced information or reporting. “Who gives 2 shits about ads?†Anyone who is looking for factual information online should care. Legitimate information sources will not have a lot of spam advertising. If a website has the spam advertising as the sources it quotes, then it suggests that none of them are solid information sources. HP really proves this, as articles in the News section call people who do not share their opinions “brainwashed†and “dummiesâ€. This is not fact reporting, this is bullying.
You keep challenging us to look for the proof for your wild claims on your behalf, because you know that you can’t find it. Once again, I have met your challenge. The blogs were referring to ‘Psychedelics and Mental Health: A Population Study’. You can read it by CLICKING HERE. Notice how this website has very little advertising, and no spam adverts. That is because this is a legitimate and peer reviewed source.
With that being said, I do not think you can use this as proof. Not because I don’t like the results, but because the statistics it provides do not match the results. For example, it defines “lifetime use of psychedelics†as having used one even once in your lifetime. This makes for a very broad category. Also, most of the people involved did not take any psychedelics in the past year*, but all of the questions about mental health symptoms did relate to the past year*. So much of the research was done long after they had stopped taking psychedelics and had recovered from their mental health issues. There is no way of knowing if psychedelic use did play a part in making anyone mentally ill, or helping them to recover. But the research did suggest the people were twice as likely to have symptoms if they had taken psychedelics in their lifetime. (Table 3)
*Past year – The 12 months immediately before the interview.
The only thing this research accurately concludes is that psychedelic users probably have tried marijuana (98.2%?), and are less likely to be married before the age of 26.
<blockquote class='quote\\_blockquote'><dl><dt>kanefan666</dt><dd> </dd></dl><div>
Objectifying a subjective experience is not easy. Dreams for example… Anyone who meditates or Lucid dreams would know what i’m talking about. Dreaming is like the secondary truth of the universe. It’s trying to show that perception is actually reality and not disconnected from it.
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Now you’re just clutching at straws. Several members of OSR do meditate, and The Reverend himself is a lucid dreamer. That’s right; when I dream, I am usually actively aware that I am in a dream. I can determine my own actions therein, physically feel stuff and then wake myself up in the real world when things turn bad.
At best, dreams are your own mind making sense of multi-sensory stimuli in the waking world. They are not an alternate reality; they are a fantasy world created by the imagination and intuition. It is NOT real.
But it is time to call this madness to an end.
You have not had a spiritual experience. You had a drug trip. Your posts prove that you know nothing about spirituality, and very little about science. Your information only comes from unreliable sources that tell you what you want to hear. You also go into denial everytime you are asked to explain something, which is not something someone who has been “enlightened†will do.
And frankly, I have had enough of you insulting others because they don’t believe your myths. I don’t think the members of OSR need to see any more of your mental breakdown. From now on, you need staff approval before your posts appear at OSR. We'll start approving your posts when you become open-mined, or we just simply want more comedy from you.[/quote]What is real?? Dreams are alternate realities, although highly subjective. I'll say it again, Third Eye related experiences ARE spiritual whether induced by drugs or meditation. Dreams occur in the same area.
As I promised, I took a very careful look at the last link you provided. The article was posted on a website called ‘Collective Evolution’. It cites 2 main sources; ‘Ultra Culture’ and ‘Higher Perspective’. I checked out all 3 websites very carefully, and they are only blogs. They are not good sources for balanced information or reporting. “Who gives 2 shits about ads?†Anyone who is looking for factual information online should care. Legitimate information sources will not have a lot of spam advertising. If a website has the spam advertising as the sources it quotes, then it suggests that none of them are solid information sources. HP really proves this, as articles in the News section call people who do not share their opinions “brainwashed†and “dummiesâ€. This is not fact reporting, this is bullying.
You keep challenging us to look for the proof for your wild claims on your behalf, because you know that you can’t find it. Once again, I have met your challenge. The blogs were referring to ‘Psychedelics and Mental Health: A Population Study’. You can read it by CLICKING HERE. Notice how this website has very little advertising, and no spam adverts. That is because this is a legitimate and peer reviewed source.
With that being said, I do not think you can use this as proof. Not because I don’t like the results, but because the statistics it provides do not match the results. For example, it defines “lifetime use of psychedelics†as having used one even once in your lifetime. This makes for a very broad category. Also, most of the people involved did not take any psychedelics in the past year*, but all of the questions about mental health symptoms did relate to the past year*. So much of the research was done long after they had stopped taking psychedelics and had recovered from their mental health issues. There is no way of knowing if psychedelic use did play a part in making anyone mentally ill, or helping them to recover. But the research did suggest the people were twice as likely to have symptoms if they had taken psychedelics in their lifetime. (Table 3)
*Past year – The 12 months immediately before the interview.
The only thing this research accurately concludes is that psychedelic users probably have tried marijuana (98.2%?), and are less likely to be married before the age of 26.
<blockquote class='quote\\_blockquote'><dl><dt>kanefan666</dt><dd> </dd></dl><div>
Objectifying a subjective experience is not easy. Dreams for example… Anyone who meditates or Lucid dreams would know what i’m talking about. Dreaming is like the secondary truth of the universe. It’s trying to show that perception is actually reality and not disconnected from it.
[/quote]
Now you’re just clutching at straws. Several members of OSR do meditate, and The Reverend himself is a lucid dreamer. That’s right; when I dream, I am usually actively aware that I am in a dream. I can determine my own actions therein, physically feel stuff and then wake myself up in the real world when things turn bad.
At best, dreams are your own mind making sense of multi-sensory stimuli in the waking world. They are not an alternate reality; they are a fantasy world created by the imagination and intuition. It is NOT real.
But it is time to call this madness to an end.
You have not had a spiritual experience. You had a drug trip. Your posts prove that you know nothing about spirituality, and very little about science. Your information only comes from unreliable sources that tell you what you want to hear. You also go into denial everytime you are asked to explain something, which is not something someone who has been “enlightened†will do.
And frankly, I have had enough of you insulting others because they don’t believe your myths. I don’t think the members of OSR need to see any more of your mental breakdown. From now on, you need staff approval before your posts appear at OSR. We'll start approving your posts when you become open-mined, or we just simply want more comedy from you.[/quote]What is real?? Dreams are alternate realities, although highly subjective. I'll say it again, Third Eye related experiences ARE spiritual whether induced by drugs or meditation. Dreams occur in the same area.
