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Vince McMahon furious at RAW... again?

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It has been a while, but Vince McMahon is once again furious about how something went down on RAW. But this time, it was a little more justified.

During the CM Punk vs John Cena main event, Punk performed a piledriver on Cena. This caused McMahon to lose his temper. It may seem like a small matter, but this really is a big deal.

The piledriver was always a banned move due to the severe risk of neck and head injuries. Wrestlers have suffered career ending injuries due to moves like these. They became popular in the late 1970's because they were a banned move, and heels could use them to generate heel heat. And until last decade, the ban was not enforced by many companies, even though the number of serious injuries remained consistent.

The move was re-banned by the WWE in 2007 after the deaths of Chris Benoit and Andrew "Test" Martin. Autopsies on both men revealed that they had suffered severe brain trauma as a result of too many piledriver-like moves and weapon shots to the head. In the interests of protecting wrestlers, McMahon insisted that all wrestlers who wanted to use the piledriver, or unprotected weapon shots to the head, must get hand-written approval from McMahon himself. This includes whenever Undertaker or Kane wish to use the Tombstone Piledriver in matches. This is why Jerry Lawler now uses the Diving Fist Drop and Anklelock as his main finishers.

Even though Cena approved of Punk using the move, no-one in WWE Management were aware of the spot, so permission was not given. There is an internal theory that neither man will be punished for this, but no one should be so sure. In 2010, McMahon decreed that anyone using a piledriver like move or unprotected chair shots to the head in their matches (without prior permission) would be fined heavily. And the only two men to have been fined so far were Triple H and Undertaker for their WrestleMania XXVII match.

The WWE alone has a very long history of wrestlers suffering injuries from piledriver. Famous incidents involved Owen Hart and Steve Austin genuinely breaking each other's necks after using variations of the piledriver. In 2001, the piledriver was banned after Triple H was momentarily paralysed following a Tombstone Piledriver by Kane which was performed properly.

The WWE doctors will not medically clear Mick Foley, Steve Austin or Edge for any future matches due to the damage done to their necks or head.
 
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Nice post, but I'm gonna be that asshole to fix a few things in it. :p

<blockquote class='quote\\_blockquote'><dl><dt>Quote:</dt><dd> </dd></dl><div>The piledriver was always a banned move due to the severe risk of neck and head injuries. Wrestlers have suffered career ending injuries due to moves like these. They became popular in the late 1970's because they were a banned move, and heels could use them to generate heel heat. And until last decade, the ban was not enforced by many companies, even though the number of serious injuries remained consistent.[/quote]


Eh... yes and no. Though the piledriver was "banned" in the "official wrestling rules", it was about as banned as say.... throwing someone over the top rope was in WCW during the Bill Watts administration. I do believe it was either the "Unreal Story of Pro Wrestling" documentary or one of my WWE dvds, but Lawler talks about this. He would have to do something psychologically to get the ref to look the other way before performing his finishing maneuver.

<blockquote class='quote\\_blockquote'><dl><dt>Quote:</dt><dd> </dd></dl><div>The move was re-banned by the WWE in 2007 after the deaths of Chris Benoit and Andrew "Test" Martin.[/quote]

This one is wrong on so many levels. It's been banned in the WWE since Austin broke his neck, not the Benoit fiasco, and Test didn't die until 2009. You are correct as far as I know about getting Vince's consent, though. This is one of the glaring reasons Undertaker started using the Last Ride and Kane the Chokeslam. :hi

<blockquote class='quote\\_blockquote'><dl><dt>Quote:</dt><dd> </dd></dl><div>Famous incidents involved Owen Hart and Steve Austin genuinely breaking each other's necks after using variations of the piledriver.[/quote]

Just to be a twat, I'd like to point out that Austin never broke Owen's neck. :p

Seeing the piledriver (just watched the match less than an hour ago) was a big deal. That was Punk pulling a shoot, yet again. The announcers damn near shat themselves. and I laughed imagining the things they were being told over their head sets. Thus, why they both said just seconds after calling the piledriver on commentary, they both said: "I have no clue what to say" in a very discombobulated way. It was freaking awesome, and that was a hell of a match.

Piledriver dangerous? Sure. That's why its so god damn devastating. I remember watching Bret Hart use it (still one of my favorite versions) when I was a kid and couldn't WAIT to try it on one of my friends! :D

By the way, like these "mini-articles", keep 'em up.






 

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"Vince McMahon furious at RAW... again?"

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Okay.

<blockquote class='quote\\_blockquote'><dl><dt>Quote:</dt><dd> </dd></dl><div>The piledriver was always a banned move due to the severe risk of neck and head injuries. Wrestlers have suffered career ending injuries due to moves like these. They became popular in the late 1970's because they were a banned move, and heels could use them to generate heel heat. And until last decade, the ban was not enforced by many companies, even though the number of serious injuries remained consistent.[/quote]

<blockquote class='quote\\_blockquote'><dl><dt>CBV</dt><dd> </dd></dl><div>
Eh... yes and no. Though the piledriver was "banned" in the "official wrestling rules", it was about as banned as say.... throwing someone over the top rope was in WCW during the Bill Watts administration. I do believe it was either the "Unreal Story of Pro Wrestling" documentary or one of my WWE dvds, but Lawler talks about this. He would have to do something psychologically to get the ref to look the other way before performing his finishing maneuver.
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Not so much a correction as it is an addition. The piledriver was always a banned move, just like hitting someone in the crotch. But a lot of "illegal" moves were generally accepted because they generated excitement and heel heat, and because wrestlers found ways to perform these acts safely. These rules were never actually removed, just not enforced as much.

<blockquote class='quote\\_blockquote'><dl><dt>CBV</dt><dd> </dd></dl><div>This one is wrong on so many levels. It's been banned in the WWE since Austin broke his neck, not the Benoit fiasco, and Test didn't die until 2009. You are correct as far as I know about getting Vince's consent, though. This is one of the glaring reasons Undertaker started using the Last Ride and Kane the Chokeslam. :hi
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Not so. Variations of the piledriver continued to be used greatly after this incident. They were initially banned in 2001 after Triple H suffered a stinger. But the "ban" basically meant that everyone could not use the moves as finishers any more. It was not until the autopsies returned that Vince really lay down the "no exceptions" rule relating to the move. The reason why Kane started using the chokeslam was to play down the connection between himself and Undertaker. And the reason why Undertaker started using the Last Ride was to separate himself from his pre-American Bad Ass gimmicks.

I admit that I got the date of Test's death and autopsy wrong. But didn't Austin not break Owen's neck about 18 months before Owen broke Austin's? Owen's injury was much less severe.

I remember when I was in school, the larger boys would assume that anyone who was short was not tough. In order for the shorter person to prove that they were tough, they had to let a bigger guy perform a tombstone piledriver on you. And yes, the bigger guys did drop you head first into the concrete or tarmac. If you refused or acknowledged any pain, you weren't tough. If you took the moves any did not react, then you were branded as being "retarded".
 

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Yep Steve did injure Owen neck,I think it was with a piledriver too.
 

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i would be mad for cena doing the hurricanrana on punk rather then the piledriver .I never knew triple h was momentarily paralysed following a Tombstone Piledriver by Kane which was performed properly thanks for the info on this.
 

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<blockquote class='quote\\_blockquote'><dl><dt>Artist formely known as KWG</dt><dd>Feb 27 2013, 08:14:21 PM</dd></dl><div>Yep Steve did injure Owen neck,I think it was with a piledriver too.[/quote]Naaaw.It was Chono.
 

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So I just watched their match on my DVR, yea I know kinda late right? I must say it was actually a better match than I thought it would be. I laughed my @$$ off at the hurricanrana. But while you can blame the piledriver for broken necks, can you really blame it for most brain injuries? Here sign a waiver in case you get injured... Come on now, its your job; you know the risks involved. I think Punk and Cena are trying to push limits, draw rating, etc. That match was actually a really good match for not being a title match and on Network. Reminds of when Nitro would do PPV worthy matches on Network. I miss those days, gimme a reason to sit through three hours of you cramming your movies down my throat. I think they might be trying to cater to the older crowd again, haven't they normally been doing the higher profile matches at like 10pm? And the last hour was blah blah blah.
 
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