Wrestling Discussion

[Deleted User]

He's also changing his point from "It wasn't safer back then" to "Well, bumps still do damage to your body".

No one has ever claimed the latter wasn't true (besides greenhorns who think they're invincible).

My point stands true: The secret in the old days was the boys weren't out there hurting each other. They were protecting each other. Were the guys like Terry Funk who would slug you as hard as they could? Yep. And guess what? They weren't the standard. At all.

I've had Rip swing at my full force. I've felt the wind cut across my face as his fist seemingly went right through my face without hurting me. It was an art, back then, for most guys. They strived diligently to make it seem as real as possible.

Did injuries happen? I dunno, does a bear shit in the woods? Does it make it as dangerous as a lot of modern wrestling, of course not, the idea is complete nonsense. There isn't a single veteran alive that would try to argue that classic wrestling was just as dangerous as modern wrestling.

 

[Champion_Gamer]

being australian I never saw any of these ad's, however it is a really cool part of wrestling history. also wrestling with wregret is a really good youtube channel he's got some really good retrospectives.


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[Deleted User]

"Lance is bored because fuck Lance."

Love it.

 

[Ronzo34]

cm punk to appear at roh event rumor for u cm fans

 

[Deleted User]

I'm kind of skeptical of that. Especially since he has a UFC fight coming up.

If he does show up, that'll be freaking sweet.

 

[Ronzo34]

yeah me too , it would be cool but if he gets wrecked again in ufc it might take the wind out of the sail

 

[Deleted User]

I looked up the show you were referring to, it's not ROH, it's called "All IN" and the lineup looks freaking amazing, and Punk is slated to make an autograph signing, so that's cool.

 

[Ronzo34]

cool idk why i was thinking it was roh

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wow its a 10,000 seat arena and its sold out apparently a few websites claimed it sold out in one hour

 

[Champion_Gamer]

form the Pro Wrestling & MMA World Facebook page: <blockquote class='quote\\_blockquote'><dl><dt>Quote:</dt><dd> </dd></dl><div>NJPW President Wants To 'Trouble WWE,'

New Japan Pro Wrestling has hired a new President, Harold Meij. At 54 years old, Meij (Dutch) will be the first NJPW President who is not Japanese. Previously, he held the role of CEO for TOMY, a Japanese toy company, and has lived in Japan for over 30 years. Meij began with TOMY in 2014 and took the company from its biggest loss year to the most profitable ever in 2017. In an interview Meij is looking to expand the company globally and said in three years he wants NJPW to bring in about $90 million in sales. In regards to WWE, "Long term, I want us to trouble WWE. If you just look at our product you'll see that's not out of the question."[/quote]


gonna be honest as much as i said new japan is a huge threat to the WWE i never truly expected them to lay down the gauntlet so to speak. new japan certainly have the talent, production values and most importantly the money to try and knock the WWE off their perch and into second place.

it's truly a exciting time to be a fan of pro wrestling, the landscape is shifting.

 

[Deleted User]

It would be nice to have honest competition. I don't really think he laid down the gauntlet, though. Well, at least not in the fashion Eric Bischoff did in the 90's (and again, just much less unsuccessful in the 2000's). Saying they hope they "trouble" WWE is, in my interpretation, a way of having WWE acknowledge them as a legitimate company, since they won't even acknowledge them at all at this point.

I do think the tide is shifting, though. With shows like All-In selling out 10,000 tickets in a day, New Japan making moves to a Stateside show, things are really changing.

There are a couple worries I have, though.

1: WWE is reportedly trying to be sold to Disney, if you get the Disney machine behind you, expect very little competition.

2: WWE is (once again, reportedly) trying to establish a new territory system to farm/prospect new talent. If this happens, I expect them to do a lot of shady business practices as they have done in the past, like threatening not to bring shows to towns that also allow their competition to run shows.

This happened more than once in the past with companies like ROH, and now that Linda McMahon is in the White House, and Vince McMahon is literally richer than he has ever been, I worry that instead of meeting that competition from NJPW by making their product better, they may just resort to slimy procedures backstage and in business.

Here's hoping they choose instead to make their product better, so was can more great wrestling to watch all around.

 

[The NekoMancer]

TOMY as in Takara TOMY? The Toy Company that sells pokemon figures?

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Saying they hope they "trouble" WWE is, in my interpretation, a way of having WWE acknowledge them as a legitimate company, since they won't even acknowledge them at all at this point.

Hmm? Isn't mentioning the IWGP title as a milestone on a wrestler's career (the announce team mentions that for AJ Styles often) acknowledging them as a legitimate company/promotion?

 

[Deleted User]

I suppose so! I stand corrected.

 

[Tyler Black]

NJPW is great, Wwe is great, wrestling in general is just great right now. All In is more to stroke Cody and the bucks ego more than anything else

 

[Deleted User]

<blockquote class='quote\\_blockquote'><dl><dt>Tyler Black</dt><dd>May 18 2018, 02:30:46 PM</dd></dl><div>NJPW is great, Wwe is great, wrestling in general is just great right now. All In is more to stroke Cody and the bucks ego more than anything else [/quote]I think it's more than that. It's a legit show to make money and show that wrestling outside of WWE can be a real thing.

To diminish this incredible accomplishment as an ego stroke is missing the point. Hell, even CM Punk is going to attend. When was the last time he even went NEAR a wrestling show?

 

[Tyler Black]

<blockquote class='quote\\_blockquote'><dl><dt>Tyler Black</dt><dd>May 18 2018, 02:30:46 PM</dd></dl><div>NJPW is great, Wwe is great, wrestling in general is just great right now. All In is more to stroke Cody and the bucks ego more than anything else

I think it's more than that. It's a legit show to make money and show that wrestling outside of WWE can be a real thing.

To diminish this incredible accomplishment as an ego stroke is missing the point. Hell, even CM Punk is going to attend. When was the last time he even went NEAR a wrestling show?[/quote]Cody’s booking himself in an NWA world title match. The bucks have been on punks ass about joining BC for about a year now. Really feels like ego stroking. I’m all fr them showing there’s life outside wwe but the bucks have been rubbing me the wrong way for a while now. Did you hear about them flipping out on that photographer?

 

[Ronzo34]

i just hope its a really great show , the line up it looks very promising maybe if anything it will make wwe a little less lazy. I think deep down vinnie mack misses having some form of competition even if its just a little flame at the moment.

 

[Deleted User]

@Tyler: You think Cody hasn't earned a shot at the title? And the Young Bucks entire gimmick is centered around being smart ass, disrespctful punks.

No, I didn't hear about their incident with a photographer.

 

[Tyler Black]

@Tyler: You think Cody hasn't earned a shot at the title? And the Young Bucks entire gimmick is centered around being smart ass, disrespctful punks.

No, I didn't hear about their incident with a photographer.

Eh. I haven’t been big on Cody since about 2013/2014. Haven’t really been a fan of his NJ/Indy work. Only his ibushi matches have stuck out to me. Basically one of the Bucks used a photo from a photographer and went out of his way to crop their watermark out. When he politely asked the Buck to give him credit on the post, he went off on the photographer about how he gave him the privilege of taking the picture by going out and performing and he wouldn’t be giving him credit, but he would delete the picture. Seems like their a little too high on their own shit lately

 

[Ronzo34]

tyler i think u r missing the whole point, its not about just one guy or how good they are, its the fact that a 10,000 seat arena was sold out by a non wwe entity and that hasnt happend in almost 20 years. Im not the biggest rhodes or bucks fan but there is alot of other deserving talent going to be there .

 

[Deleted User]

Cody is the biggest name on the card besides Rey, though.

I mean, the best wrestler is rarely the guy who has the best moves, it's the guy who can draw the most asses to seats.