That post Rev made concerning the history of this place is maybe 40% accurate. He gets a ton wrong, but that's because he wasn't there for a lot of things. He didn't become an admin until a few years into his membership. He literally wasn't a member here when we started and for him to try and make up his own history of OSR is silly.
He gets a ton of things wrong in the timeline, and the fact he's still calling Neko names three years after should be more than enough to convince anyone that his memory has a biased slant to it.
OSR didn't start off as a place for NMZ rejects to go to spite NMZ, quite the opposite. OSR originally was a nostalgia forum. If anything, we were considered a "sister site" to NMZ that harbored more of the newer/noob modders and hackers while they tried to make their stuff good enough to post at NMZ. NMZ wasn't the enemy, it was the goal for a lot of modders like myself and Neko. No more no less. It was a nostalgia/arts and crafts forum that focused on discussion of things from the 80's and 90's. It had a section for mods, but they ranged from
Super Mario Bros hacks, to GTA mods and beyond. It was a home to anything from "the good old days".
We had a huge arts and crafts section which was deleted by an angry admin years and years ago. We had a daily/weekly discussion and debates thread, along with other random crap.
AKIMan didn't bring int he SvR crowd until we had already established this part of our forum. Though we had a few people who had an immature chip on their shoulders about NMZ (myself and El Guapo, mainly), it was all about establishing our own brand and atmosphere for people who liked to mod wrestling games. To say this place started because NMZ admins left and the people in charge whom remained were dicks to everybody is so unbelievably untrue it's ridiculous.
Bootflap started NMZ and he was there until the day it died. And though myself and others had that irrational chip on our shoulders, I'd like to think that as time passes that has changed quite a bit and we are able to see the forest for the trees a bit better, now.
When the war between neko/rev was raging, I have to say neko was the one who was taking the high road. Rev would remove Neko as an admin, and would be literally demanding that he beg him to get them back, all the while referring to him as a "worthless dog". I would get screencaps but it was a facebook chat from three years ago, I'm not going to dig through all that but here's a basic re-creation of how it would go down:
"Hey, why did you take my admin privs?"
"Beg for them, back, dog."
Repeat over and over again for weeks. I got sick of his insistence to fighting with him that I banned him, myself. Reverend literally refused to stop fighting for weeks. He gave me zero choice. He took control of our facebook page and sabotaged it out of spite, and to this day refuses to give the privileges back the original admins. I find it completely laughable that he's making broad sweeping posts pretending to have some sort of dignity in this situation, because his temper was one of the worst to deal with when it all went down.
And it wasn't just ERI who ruined it, it wasn't even just him and 80las. Don't forget the behaviors that section had that gave the admins more work than they should have ever had. We worked hard to foster a fun place for people to host their content, but the egos of many modders were getting so completely out of hand that they weren't worth working for, anymore.
I can't even remember the guy's name, but during this time a new SD2 modder showed up who seemed alright, but within weeks he was lecturing the admins and telling us how we need to respect him and do as he says because he has brought us a LOT of traffic, and if we won't listen to his demands he threatened to leave. I was like... "Bye".
Many, many modders and hackers from that section tried to tell the staff how WE need to placate to THEM because in their minds, they made OSR what is was, and this board owes it's existence to them and the shit-traffic they bring. There's too many names to even make a list, there were so many like the example before that had this idea in their head that I work for them. When I saw how out of control it got, I had to pull the plug.
You can only be told "fuck you" so many times by ungrateful kids before you don't let them play in your yard, anymore. I allowed Reverend to copy and paste all the resources LOM would need in order to continue modding their games without losing any of their discoveries here.
That's right, bitches, even AFTER I made the SvR section invisible to the public, I actually worked WITH Reverend to recover and duplicate the important information needed to keep your discoveries/guides/information libraries alive, even AFTER all the drama with ERI and 80las happened.
Even after 80las and ERI getting busted for what they did, and during/after reverend and neko fighting, I was still working to make sure SvR modding didn't take a hit it couldn't recover from.
But I'm the asshole, apparently, who deleted everything and tried to "kill SvR modding". Fuck off with that talk. I did more work for a modding scene I'm not even a part of than ANYONE at LOM can claim for themselves. Never got a thank you. Never had the community listen to my requests concerning the rules and how to go about treating each other. Nope. It was always "Fuck you, modders like me need to have our asses kissed because we bring traffic!"
I don't miss dealing with egos like that, anymore. You fuckers didn't make OSR what it is.
As someone who never modded SvR, you think they'd appreciate the time time I spent trying to give them a home. They didn't, they thought the exact opposite, that I should be grateful to them for all they "did for me", heh. What a shitty worldview.
If everyone hates him, then it's their own fault for sticking around.
