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Mate I read through you’re thread, and to be honest it sounded like the plot to a assassins creed game, but with that said what sounds funny and odd to me could make sense to another person, so I can’t fault you on your beliefs, everyone has a right to his or her opinion. However I will quote a little saying I’ve been told many times
“politics and religion should never be talked aboutâ€
“politics and religion should never be talked aboutâ€
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With all due respect, (which at this point I hope is none) it is YOU that needs to prove what you are saying. It is you who has the newest belief system, and it is you who is trying to convince us that your unique view is correct. The burden of proof belongs with you, the guy who is challenging long-held and better researched beliefs.
You keep saying that we do not read scientific or pyscharity texts. Are you certain about that? Because I am certain that you don't. And I am certain that I do. Before logging in here, I was reading stuff by Jill Dann, Gary R. Collins, Ph.D., and Dr. Joe Ibojie. If you do not know who they are, it is because they publish books and journals, not quick YouTube videos. On top of that, I have several close friends who hold PhDs in biology, chemistry, psychology, psycharitry, technology and theology. It is difficult maintaining friendships with such people without picking up information along the way.
Hanscral Leuner published 'Praxis der Kinderpsychologie und Kinder psychiatrie' in 1966. He championed better research into emotional factors in mental development. He also theorised that women who did not want to become mothers and housewives suffered from poor emotional intelligence, and were negatively affected by their own childhoods. He admitted that he perscribed LSD to such women to treat their "disorder". It was common practise back then for LSD, a drug that alters brain chemistry, to be perscribed to people who deviated from social norms. In 1982, much of the Northern Hemisphere stopped perscribing LSD because, surprise surprise, LSD altered patients' brain chemistry. Even a small amount was causing brains to malfunction.
Do you know what they replaced LSD perscriptions with? Proper psychological or psychriatric consoling and therapy. Most of which has better effects AND less serious side-effects. LSD is only used medicinally with specific intent to change brain function.
You are the only person in the world I would recommend this to, but I suggest you read 'Heal The World' by David Icke (1982). A lot of this stuff that you are saying about "enlightenment" is in that book. This is the same guy who claimed that he was THE son of God (not just a child of God) and that all of the world's most powerful people are actually shape-shifting lizards from another planet. But yet almost everything you say has been expressed by Icke more than 30 years ago.
The third-eye is a concept held by multiple religions and belief systems, including Buddhism. But if you truly understand how the third-eye works, you would refrain from using artifical substances to enhance it. It can only be opened through meditation and the person's natural energies. Only natural substances can help develop the third eye, and anything that introduces new chemicals, like LSD does, HINDERS the third-eye.
The claim that we are just a holographic projection is a theory, and nothing more. It is a theory that is currently being researched, and has yet to be proven. The scientist who came up with the theory admits that we do not yet have the technology to prove this. The basic point of science is that things can be proven. Even the process of finding stuff out is science. So until he even has a means of at least testing his theory, his theory is not scientific fact.
You think that we are using the word "drugs" incorrectly. You are using actual drugs incorrectly.
We are not against you because you have an unpopular opinion. We are against you because you insult those who do not automatically agree with your opinions, implying that we too comfortable with our illusions (another argument that David Icke makes... interesting). We have read all of your posts, including the ones you later went back and edited. You are not someone who has achieved any kind of enlightenment. You are not even someone who is very sure about what they believe in. Your responces prove that. In fact, a lot of the insults you use to call us ignorant, are also demonstrated in earlier posts of your own.
I very much doubt that, if you read all of this, that you accepted any of it. If you are not willing to have your beliefs challenged, then they cannot be very strong beliefs, can they? So unless you can actually back up anything you are saying, STOP calling us ignorant for believing in science.
You keep saying that we do not read scientific or pyscharity texts. Are you certain about that? Because I am certain that you don't. And I am certain that I do. Before logging in here, I was reading stuff by Jill Dann, Gary R. Collins, Ph.D., and Dr. Joe Ibojie. If you do not know who they are, it is because they publish books and journals, not quick YouTube videos. On top of that, I have several close friends who hold PhDs in biology, chemistry, psychology, psycharitry, technology and theology. It is difficult maintaining friendships with such people without picking up information along the way.
Hanscral Leuner published 'Praxis der Kinderpsychologie und Kinder psychiatrie' in 1966. He championed better research into emotional factors in mental development. He also theorised that women who did not want to become mothers and housewives suffered from poor emotional intelligence, and were negatively affected by their own childhoods. He admitted that he perscribed LSD to such women to treat their "disorder". It was common practise back then for LSD, a drug that alters brain chemistry, to be perscribed to people who deviated from social norms. In 1982, much of the Northern Hemisphere stopped perscribing LSD because, surprise surprise, LSD altered patients' brain chemistry. Even a small amount was causing brains to malfunction.
Do you know what they replaced LSD perscriptions with? Proper psychological or psychriatric consoling and therapy. Most of which has better effects AND less serious side-effects. LSD is only used medicinally with specific intent to change brain function.
You are the only person in the world I would recommend this to, but I suggest you read 'Heal The World' by David Icke (1982). A lot of this stuff that you are saying about "enlightenment" is in that book. This is the same guy who claimed that he was THE son of God (not just a child of God) and that all of the world's most powerful people are actually shape-shifting lizards from another planet. But yet almost everything you say has been expressed by Icke more than 30 years ago.
The third-eye is a concept held by multiple religions and belief systems, including Buddhism. But if you truly understand how the third-eye works, you would refrain from using artifical substances to enhance it. It can only be opened through meditation and the person's natural energies. Only natural substances can help develop the third eye, and anything that introduces new chemicals, like LSD does, HINDERS the third-eye.
The claim that we are just a holographic projection is a theory, and nothing more. It is a theory that is currently being researched, and has yet to be proven. The scientist who came up with the theory admits that we do not yet have the technology to prove this. The basic point of science is that things can be proven. Even the process of finding stuff out is science. So until he even has a means of at least testing his theory, his theory is not scientific fact.
You think that we are using the word "drugs" incorrectly. You are using actual drugs incorrectly.
We are not against you because you have an unpopular opinion. We are against you because you insult those who do not automatically agree with your opinions, implying that we too comfortable with our illusions (another argument that David Icke makes... interesting). We have read all of your posts, including the ones you later went back and edited. You are not someone who has achieved any kind of enlightenment. You are not even someone who is very sure about what they believe in. Your responces prove that. In fact, a lot of the insults you use to call us ignorant, are also demonstrated in earlier posts of your own.
I very much doubt that, if you read all of this, that you accepted any of it. If you are not willing to have your beliefs challenged, then they cannot be very strong beliefs, can they? So unless you can actually back up anything you are saying, STOP calling us ignorant for believing in science.
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Are we even meant to be professional at a forum?kanefan666 said:
What is this shit? Marvel comics?kanefan666 said:
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<blockquote class='quote\\_blockquote'><dl><dt>Quote:</dt><dd> </dd></dl><div> We all know cannabis cures Cancer. [/quote]
It doesn't. It is said that if you use it your probabilities to develop Cancer decrease.
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<blockquote class='quote\\_blockquote'><dl><dt>The Reverend</dt><dd>Jan 21 2014, 12:26:24 PM</dd></dl><div>With all due respect, (which at this point I hope is none) it is YOU that needs to prove what you are saying. It is you who has the newest belief system, and it is you who is trying to convince us that your unique view is correct. The burden of proof belongs with you, the guy who is challenging long-held and better researched beliefs.
You keep saying that we do not read scientific or pyscharity texts. Are you certain about that? Because I am certain that you don't. And I am certain that I do. Before logging in here, I was reading stuff by Jill Dann, Gary R. Collins, Ph.D., and Dr. Joe Ibojie. If you do not know who they are, it is because they publish books and journals, not quick YouTube videos. On top of that, I have several close friends who hold PhDs in biology, chemistry, psychology, psycharitry, technology and theology. It is difficult maintaining friendships with such people without picking up information along the way.
Hanscral Leuner published 'Praxis der Kinderpsychologie und Kinder psychiatrie' in 1966. He championed better research into emotional factors in mental development. He also theorised that women who did not want to become mothers and housewives suffered from poor emotional intelligence, and were negatively affected by their own childhoods. He admitted that he perscribed LSD to such women to treat their "disorder". It was common practise back then for LSD, a drug that alters brain chemistry, to be perscribed to people who deviated from social norms. In 1982, much of the Northern Hemisphere stopped perscribing LSD because, surprise surprise, LSD altered patients' brain chemistry. Even a small amount was causing brains to malfunction.
Do you know what they replaced LSD perscriptions with? Proper psychological or psychriatric consoling and therapy. Most of which has better effects AND less serious side-effects. LSD is only used medicinally with specific intent to change brain function.
You are the only person in the world I would recommend this to, but I suggest you read 'Heal The World' by David Icke (1982). A lot of this stuff that you are saying about "enlightenment" is in that book. This is the same guy who claimed that he was THE son of God (not just a child of God) and that all of the world's most powerful people are actually shape-shifting lizards from another planet. But yet almost everything you say has been expressed by Icke more than 30 years ago.
The third-eye is a concept held by multiple religions and belief systems, including Buddhism. But if you truly understand how the third-eye works, you would refrain from using artifical substances to enhance it. It can only be opened through meditation and the person's natural energies. Only natural substances can help develop the third eye, and anything that introduces new chemicals, like LSD does, HINDERS the third-eye.
The claim that we are just a holographic projection is a theory, and nothing more. It is a theory that is currently being researched, and has yet to be proven. The scientist who came up with the theory admits that we do not yet have the technology to prove this. The basic point of science is that things can be proven. Even the process of finding stuff out is science. So until he even has a means of at least testing his theory, his theory is not scientific fact.
You think that we are using the word "drugs" incorrectly. You are using actual drugs incorrectly.
We are not against you because you have an unpopular opinion. We are against you because you insult those who do not automatically agree with your opinions, implying that we too comfortable with our illusions (another argument that David Icke makes... interesting). We have read all of your posts, including the ones you later went back and edited. You are not someone who has achieved any kind of enlightenment. You are not even someone who is very sure about what they believe in. Your responces prove that. In fact, a lot of the insults you use to call us ignorant, are also demonstrated in earlier posts of your own.
I very much doubt that, if you read all of this, that you accepted any of it. If you are not willing to have your beliefs challenged, then they cannot be very strong beliefs, can they? So unless you can actually back up anything you are saying, STOP calling us ignorant for believing in science.[/quote]You DO realize that the experience is highly subjective and varies from person to person, right? As far as the Holographic Multiverse theory goes, it has been PROVEN. To say that it's false is like saying that Maths and logic is false and every other scientific development has been merely due to chance. As far as Artificial chemical goes, LSD releases DMT (NATURAL) into the body. And that my friend, never hinders anything. I'm sure you must be aware of the fact that Consciousness is NON LOCAL and ENTANGLED to the brain. I'm not even sure about the Malfunction part. You see, it syncs your perceptions with the outside world because hey, world is 70% Unconscious, 20% subconscious and 10% conscious. DMT or energy is 100 consciousness. You're simply reading stuff and i don't think any of your friends are aware of QuantuM Physics. EVERYTHING emmanates from it. Either way, everything does happen so the shape shifting lizards idea dosen't exist on this planet but bound to exist in some other Galazy. Universe is Large and by large i mean LARGE! We don't kow what exists out there but obviously, consciousness is a sure way to explore the vastness of it. Experience is better than anything.
You keep saying that we do not read scientific or pyscharity texts. Are you certain about that? Because I am certain that you don't. And I am certain that I do. Before logging in here, I was reading stuff by Jill Dann, Gary R. Collins, Ph.D., and Dr. Joe Ibojie. If you do not know who they are, it is because they publish books and journals, not quick YouTube videos. On top of that, I have several close friends who hold PhDs in biology, chemistry, psychology, psycharitry, technology and theology. It is difficult maintaining friendships with such people without picking up information along the way.
Hanscral Leuner published 'Praxis der Kinderpsychologie und Kinder psychiatrie' in 1966. He championed better research into emotional factors in mental development. He also theorised that women who did not want to become mothers and housewives suffered from poor emotional intelligence, and were negatively affected by their own childhoods. He admitted that he perscribed LSD to such women to treat their "disorder". It was common practise back then for LSD, a drug that alters brain chemistry, to be perscribed to people who deviated from social norms. In 1982, much of the Northern Hemisphere stopped perscribing LSD because, surprise surprise, LSD altered patients' brain chemistry. Even a small amount was causing brains to malfunction.
Do you know what they replaced LSD perscriptions with? Proper psychological or psychriatric consoling and therapy. Most of which has better effects AND less serious side-effects. LSD is only used medicinally with specific intent to change brain function.
You are the only person in the world I would recommend this to, but I suggest you read 'Heal The World' by David Icke (1982). A lot of this stuff that you are saying about "enlightenment" is in that book. This is the same guy who claimed that he was THE son of God (not just a child of God) and that all of the world's most powerful people are actually shape-shifting lizards from another planet. But yet almost everything you say has been expressed by Icke more than 30 years ago.
The third-eye is a concept held by multiple religions and belief systems, including Buddhism. But if you truly understand how the third-eye works, you would refrain from using artifical substances to enhance it. It can only be opened through meditation and the person's natural energies. Only natural substances can help develop the third eye, and anything that introduces new chemicals, like LSD does, HINDERS the third-eye.
The claim that we are just a holographic projection is a theory, and nothing more. It is a theory that is currently being researched, and has yet to be proven. The scientist who came up with the theory admits that we do not yet have the technology to prove this. The basic point of science is that things can be proven. Even the process of finding stuff out is science. So until he even has a means of at least testing his theory, his theory is not scientific fact.
You think that we are using the word "drugs" incorrectly. You are using actual drugs incorrectly.
We are not against you because you have an unpopular opinion. We are against you because you insult those who do not automatically agree with your opinions, implying that we too comfortable with our illusions (another argument that David Icke makes... interesting). We have read all of your posts, including the ones you later went back and edited. You are not someone who has achieved any kind of enlightenment. You are not even someone who is very sure about what they believe in. Your responces prove that. In fact, a lot of the insults you use to call us ignorant, are also demonstrated in earlier posts of your own.
I very much doubt that, if you read all of this, that you accepted any of it. If you are not willing to have your beliefs challenged, then they cannot be very strong beliefs, can they? So unless you can actually back up anything you are saying, STOP calling us ignorant for believing in science.[/quote]You DO realize that the experience is highly subjective and varies from person to person, right? As far as the Holographic Multiverse theory goes, it has been PROVEN. To say that it's false is like saying that Maths and logic is false and every other scientific development has been merely due to chance. As far as Artificial chemical goes, LSD releases DMT (NATURAL) into the body. And that my friend, never hinders anything. I'm sure you must be aware of the fact that Consciousness is NON LOCAL and ENTANGLED to the brain. I'm not even sure about the Malfunction part. You see, it syncs your perceptions with the outside world because hey, world is 70% Unconscious, 20% subconscious and 10% conscious. DMT or energy is 100 consciousness. You're simply reading stuff and i don't think any of your friends are aware of QuantuM Physics. EVERYTHING emmanates from it. Either way, everything does happen so the shape shifting lizards idea dosen't exist on this planet but bound to exist in some other Galazy. Universe is Large and by large i mean LARGE! We don't kow what exists out there but obviously, consciousness is a sure way to explore the vastness of it. Experience is better than anything.
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Citation needed.
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Kindly google. It's not a one way information sharing topic. Theres actually proof of a patients still having Consciousness even after 1 hemisphere of his brain was removed. Heres some material if you're actually interested. Although, nothing comes close to experience.CBV said:
Holographic Multiverse (Not confined to Brian Griffin or science fiction)http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/...e-floating-inside-of-it-suggests-new-research
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Non vanity-journal citations and peer reviews scientific journals, please.
As anyone who respects, practices, or even spent more than an hour indulging in science knows, that's the only acceptable form of citation in these matters.
Seriously. I can give you a website that looks exactly what you have presented, except it says lizard people control the world. I don't believe that, either.
Since you are obviously new to all this, here is how it works: http://science.howstuffworks.com/innovation/scientific-experiments/scientific-peer-review.htm
As anyone who respects, practices, or even spent more than an hour indulging in science knows, that's the only acceptable form of citation in these matters.
Seriously. I can give you a website that looks exactly what you have presented, except it says lizard people control the world. I don't believe that, either.
Since you are obviously new to all this, here is how it works: http://science.howstuffworks.com/innovation/scientific-experiments/scientific-peer-review.htm
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Google yourself if you're THAT interested. If you were in the first place, you wouldn't have bothered to ask. I'm busy right now. FYI, all these websites summarize the citations and journals. The Holographic Multiverse idea is a century old discovery and a guy named Michael Talbot wrote a book about it's workings. However old it was, the idea didn't gain eneough attention until the current century. This is the time for awareness. Until you find a good source for information, i would assume that Mathematics is a hoax like every other scientific discovery made from it.CBV said:
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I googled myself, and I can vouch that there is no record of me saying anything about the Holographic Multiverse .
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<blockquote class='quote\\_blockquote'><dl><dt>kanefan666</dt><dd> </dd></dl><div>This place is filled with ignorant, arrogant morons.[/quote]
To sum up, you've treated people to be ignorants shitheads douchebags fuckfaces. It may make you look like you consider the only clever man on the forum whose opinion is worth being said and the arrogant moron here.
<blockquote class='quote\\_blockquote'><dl><dt>Mr. Trevor Phillips</dt><dd> </dd></dl><div>It doesn't. It is said that if you use it your probabilities to develop Cancer decrease.[/quote]
I remember an article on the HuffingtonPost and some other sites a while ago that explained how some componds in cannabis could be useful against Leukemia.
I won't attack you, kanefan, on the fact that you started a topic about LSD, yes we're a wrestling related forum but the general section is here to talk about various things and it could have started a debate and interesting talks.
The problem is your way of talking, maybe it's not your intention but you're agressive, insulting others and sometimes you really seem to be out of your mind.
I guess you'll insult me or say i live in a lie and all that crap...
To sum up, you've treated people to be ignorants shitheads douchebags fuckfaces. It may make you look like you consider the only clever man on the forum whose opinion is worth being said and the arrogant moron here.
<blockquote class='quote\\_blockquote'><dl><dt>Mr. Trevor Phillips</dt><dd> </dd></dl><div>It doesn't. It is said that if you use it your probabilities to develop Cancer decrease.[/quote]
I remember an article on the HuffingtonPost and some other sites a while ago that explained how some componds in cannabis could be useful against Leukemia.
I won't attack you, kanefan, on the fact that you started a topic about LSD, yes we're a wrestling related forum but the general section is here to talk about various things and it could have started a debate and interesting talks.
The problem is your way of talking, maybe it's not your intention but you're agressive, insulting others and sometimes you really seem to be out of your mind.
I guess you'll insult me or say i live in a lie and all that crap...
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Wait, how can you say the multiverse does not exist? It has not been actually proven (white hole, black hole theory) , so it may exist and may not exist at the same time.
Anyway guys, though I didn't read ALL the posts, but right now you are just forcing your personal beliefs on each other, claiming that you are right.
but the thing is, we can't really be 100% of everything. So why force facts on each other when you know that it won't shake their beliefs? It boils down to POV, a symbolic interpretative view in this case. I'm not saying that either side is right or wrong.
I just find this argument a waste of time. =/
EDIT: And by the way, topic was trashed to avoid further quarrel. This was the right move because of the hostile arguing and calling each other names. And when that is over, Kanefan, you open another can of worms because you need everyone to validate your beliefs and toss away theirs. Not cool man. =/
Anyway guys, though I didn't read ALL the posts, but right now you are just forcing your personal beliefs on each other, claiming that you are right.
but the thing is, we can't really be 100% of everything. So why force facts on each other when you know that it won't shake their beliefs? It boils down to POV, a symbolic interpretative view in this case. I'm not saying that either side is right or wrong.
I just find this argument a waste of time. =/
EDIT: And by the way, topic was trashed to avoid further quarrel. This was the right move because of the hostile arguing and calling each other names. And when that is over, Kanefan, you open another can of worms because you need everyone to validate your beliefs and toss away theirs. Not cool man. =/
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i have experimented a lot with various thing over the course of my life and traveled far into the depths of psychedelic space, BUT this is of no benefit to the world nor what i do for a living ... a line has to be drawn at some point, nobody needs to know about my detours in life especially if there are kids online... bad example and all 
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HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA. Rag gave you a shit-long post full of BOOK references, that you asked for, and now when asked for your actual references and proof, you tell people to google themselves?kanefan666 said:
Seriously, Fuck off.
Nobody said the Multiverse doesn't exist. BUT you can't try to shove the idea down people's throats as it's not proven yet. Same thing happens with God.stylesismilo said:
Also this wasn't the trashed topic. It was a previous one, man.
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I remember an article on the HuffingtonPost and some other sites a while ago that explained how some componds in cannabis could be useful against Leukemia.
[/quote]You said it, dude. It can be useful, but it doesn't cure it.
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It's amazing how OSR entertains me now-a-days! Arguments WITHOUT me??
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