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<blockquote class='quote\\_blockquote'><dl><dt>Prince Sultan</dt><dd>Jan 24 2014, 08:47:05 AM</dd></dl><div>It'll be a pleasure to ban you again, Black Lord. ;)[/quote]i think this is none of ur business
 

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<blockquote class='quote\\_blockquote'><dl><dt>The Reverend</dt><dd>Jan 23 2014, 12:22:53 PM</dd></dl><div><blockquote class='quote\\_blockquote'><dl><dt>kanefan666</dt><dd> </dd></dl><div>
You’re one of those who just speak without any explanations. I have been encouraging scientific discussion since the last topic.
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This only proves that you are the deluded one even further. Everyone who reads either topic can see that I have explained my case, and even reviewed your arguments carefully. I even agreed with you in the extremely rare instances when you got something right. If you really have been encouraging scientific discussion, then why have you dismissed literally every piece of information that does not agree with you? For the most part, you have made stuff up and even refused to back yourself up, telling us to do the research for you. Again, the evidence you did post contradicted you. Each time you get proven wrong, you go into denial and accuse the other person of being brainwashed.

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What do you mean not there yet?? DUDE there are experiments garnering high amounts of attention.
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Then why are they still doing experiments? It is because the experiements are not finished. They have discovered some things, but they are not finished researching this. The fact that people are taking interest in the research is a good thing, but this alone is not proof. It means that there are more people taking part in the ongoing and unfinished research.

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First things first, Light or Photons (Light Particles) are created inside atoms, the electrons, when they jump from 1 orbit to another. Although the orbits arent fixed. It has been found that they can be found anywhere near the empty space (Protons and neutrons). Don't forget that everything is made of these atoms and finally, particles. The brain itself communicates using electrical signals. And where there is electricity, there is bound to be light. This process of photon emission and absorption is known as Electromagnetic Radiation. Lsd and other drugs make brain activity faster, producing more Photons or light. It has also been found and proved that a particle can't exist alone and is a reflection of all other particles. So basically, every particle or lets say, EVERYTHING is connected or entangled regardless of distance. We can thus say that reality is entangled to consciousness or everything is Consciousness. This is where Quantum Mechanics crosses into Consciousness and Psychedelics. Now you know what Hallucinations are. You increase brain activity/Awareness and thats what causes a highly energetic, super conscious state where you get to experience reality from the tiniest to the largest of scales. There you go.
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Finally, some science that you got (mostly) right. Protons and neutrons are not empty space, but everything else is correct. But there is still a problem. You have explained how hallucinations worked. But you are assuming that things created by hallucinations are real. They are just imaginary sensations. The LSD causes the brain to work faster, but faster than it is meant to. This is why the hallucinations happen. They are the result of forced and erratic brain activity.

So basically, you have just explained how your other delusions were created.[/quote]What do you mean? I dismissed only stuff which is actually wrong and dosent resonate with Quantum Mechanics. I didn't make shit up and provided accurate explanations. Where is disinformation, pal?

I was talking about experiments that have ALREADY been COMPLETED. You're missing the point here. I wouldn't brag shit if the experiments didn't prove shit. Whether it be a proton or neutron, they are probabilities and made of empty space until observed. String theory explains this by mathematically elucidating that everything is composed or made up of 1D strings. These string are empty and non solid. It's not erratic brain activity, it's complete functioning. Theres been research when a few scientists were given Acid and asked to work on different information. Results were astounding.

So, YOU have just explained how you hate arguments. I hate arguments but this ones an exception because its a discussion.
 
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I can't believe this is still continuing. This is like Jerry Springer. The idiots on the tv aren't nearly as dumb as the people who watch it.
 

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I know this guy isn't gonna shut up, so we'll have to shut up, first. We're all wasting our time on this so called 'Science' shit, this shall be trashed immediately.
 

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kanefan666 said:
What do you mean? I dismissed only stuff which is actually wrong and dosent resonate with Quantum Mechanics. I didn't make shit up and provided accurate explanations. Where is disinformation, pal?

I was talking about experiments that have ALREADY been COMPLETED. You're missing the point here. I wouldn't brag shit if the experiments didn't prove shit. Whether it be a proton or neutron, they are probabilities and made of empty space until observed. String theory explains this by mathematically elucidating that everything is composed or made up of 1D strings. These string are empty and non solid. It's not erratic brain activity, it's complete functioning. Theres been research when a few scientists were given Acid and asked to work on different information. Results were astounding.

So, YOU have just explained how you hate arguments. I hate arguments but this ones an exception because its a discussion.

Then you either have a very selective memory, or a self-serving interpretation of events. You have blatantly disagreed with anything that did not support your preferred version of reality. You keep quoting theories, which even state that they are theories, and pretending that they are fact. Seriously, read the stuff you are posting before you post it.

The newest link you have provided the closest thing towards actual proof you have put forward so far. I have not read them yet, but I will.
Hmmm. The 2 sources the article quotes are virtually identical websites. And all 3 have the exact same spam advertising. Not a great start for people looking for truth. It's like Richard Dawkins quoting his own books within his books.
 

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Okay. I have read through the main source article 3 times. I intend to look at it more in depth. What it suggests is, their experiment involved just literally ASKING the users if they have mental health problems. And only 3/4 of the people taking part answered all of the questions. I must be missing something, because this is the same method used by the 'Family Feud' researchers.
 

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<blockquote class='quote\\_blockquote'><dl><dt>The Reverend</dt><dd>Jan 24 2014, 03:53:06 PM</dd></dl><div>
kanefan666 said:
What do you mean? I dismissed only stuff which is actually wrong and dosent resonate with Quantum Mechanics. I didn't make shit up and provided accurate explanations. Where is disinformation, pal?

I was talking about experiments that have ALREADY been COMPLETED. You're missing the point here. I wouldn't brag shit if the experiments didn't prove shit. Whether it be a proton or neutron, they are probabilities and made of empty space until observed. String theory explains this by mathematically elucidating that everything is composed or made up of 1D strings. These string are empty and non solid. It's not erratic brain activity, it's complete functioning. Theres been research when a few scientists were given Acid and asked to work on different information. Results were astounding.

So, YOU have just explained how you hate arguments. I hate arguments but this ones an exception because its a discussion.

Then you either have a very selective memory, or a self-serving interpretation of events. You have blatantly disagreed with anything that did not support your preferred version of reality. You keep quoting theories, which even state that they are theories, and pretending that they are fact. Seriously, read the stuff you are posting before you post it.

The newest link you have provided the closest thing towards actual proof you have put forward so far. I have not read them yet, but I will.
Hmmm. The 2 sources the article quotes are virtually identical websites. And all 3 have the exact same spam advertising. Not a great start for people looking for truth. It's like Richard Dawkins quoting his own books within his books.[/quote]Are you F'ing serious? I disagreed with disinformation. Obviously, new information sounds wrong to people living in different Paradigms. THEORIES,in our sense can be regarded as facts because they're supported by experiments and Mathematics followed by years of research. If you' were REALLY interested in researching, you would find sources yourself. Who gives 2 shits about ads? You want information, you get it.
<blockquote class='quote\\_blockquote'><dl><dt>The Reverend</dt><dd>Jan 24 2014, 04:35:23 PM</dd></dl><div>Okay. I have read through the main source article 3 times. I intend to look at it more in depth. What it suggests is, their experiment involved just literally ASKING the users if they have mental health problems. And only 3/4 of the people taking part answered all of the questions. I must be missing something, because this is the same method used by the 'Family Feud' researchers.[/quote]That's just 1 experiment dude. Or should i say, a survey of some sort. Objetifying a subjective experience is not easy. Dreams for example... Anyone who meditates or Lucid dreams would know what i'm talking about. Dreaming is like the secondary truth of the universe. It's trying to show that perception is actually reality and not disconnected from it.
<blockquote class='quote\\_blockquote'><dl><dt>Prince Sultan</dt><dd>Jan 24 2014, 03:47:14 PM</dd></dl><div>I know this guy isn't gonna shut up, so we'll have to shut up, first. We're all wasting our time on this so called 'Science' shit, this shall be trashed immediately. [/quote]Can you please shut up yourself first and go away? We're exchanging information here. It's not "So called Science", it IS SCIENCE you moron.
 

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Kanefan666, you have not been disagreeing with disinformation, you have been providing it. Then you turn to anger, denial and insults when facts don’t match your opinions.

As I promised, I took a very careful look at the last link you provided. The article was posted on a website called ‘Collective Evolution’. It cites 2 main sources; ‘Ultra Culture’ and ‘Higher Perspective’. I checked out all 3 websites very carefully, and they are only blogs. They are not good sources for balanced information or reporting. “Who gives 2 shits about ads?” Anyone who is looking for factual information online should care. Legitimate information sources will not have a lot of spam advertising. If a website has the spam advertising as the sources it quotes, then it suggests that none of them are solid information sources. HP really proves this, as articles in the News section call people who do not share their opinions “brainwashed” and “dummies”. This is not fact reporting, this is bullying.

You keep challenging us to look for the proof for your wild claims on your behalf, because you know that you can’t find it. Once again, I have met your challenge. The blogs were referring to ‘Psychedelics and Mental Health: A Population Study’. You can read it by CLICKING HERE. Notice how this website has very little advertising, and no spam adverts. That is because this is a legitimate and peer reviewed source.

With that being said, I do not think you can use this as proof. Not because I don’t like the results, but because the statistics it provides do not match the results. For example, it defines “lifetime use of psychedelics” as having used one even once in your lifetime. This makes for a very broad category. Also, most of the people involved did not take any psychedelics in the past year*, but all of the questions about mental health symptoms did relate to the past year*. So much of the research was done long after they had stopped taking psychedelics and had recovered from their mental health issues. There is no way of knowing if psychedelic use did play a part in making anyone mentally ill, or helping them to recover. But the research did suggest the people were twice as likely to have symptoms if they had taken psychedelics in their lifetime. (Table 3)

*Past year – The 12 months immediately before the interview.

The only thing this research accurately concludes is that psychedelic users probably have tried marijuana (98.2%?), and are less likely to be married before the age of 26.

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Objectifying a subjective experience is not easy. Dreams for example… Anyone who meditates or Lucid dreams would know what i’m talking about. Dreaming is like the secondary truth of the universe. It’s trying to show that perception is actually reality and not disconnected from it.
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Now you’re just clutching at straws. Several members of OSR do meditate, and Tired himself is a lucid dreamer. That’s right; when I dream, I am usually actively aware that I am in a dream. I can determine my own actions therein, physically feel stuff and then wake myself up in the real world when things turn bad.

At best, dreams are your own mind making sense of multi-sensory stimuli in the waking world. They are not an alternate reality; they are a fantasy world created by the imagination and intuition. It is NOT real.

But it is time to call this madness to an end.

You have not had a spiritual experience. You had a drug trip. Your posts prove that you know nothing about spirituality, and very little about science. Your information only comes from unreliable sources that tell you what you want to hear. You also go into denial everytime you are asked to explain something, which is not something someone who has been “enlightened” will do.

And frankly, I have had enough of you insulting others because they don’t believe your myths. I don’t think the members of OSR need to see any more of your mental breakdown. From now on, you need staff approval before your posts appear at OSR. We'll start approving your posts when you become open-mined, or we just simply want more comedy from you.
 
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